Stop buying PvP gear NOW.
Start stockpiling your Honor and Justice points for characters you want to PvP with in Season 11.
Blizzard announced that the current Arena Season will be ending Soon™, and Soon™ means possibly as early as November 15th, next Tuesday November 29th. Nethaera writes:
Arena and Rated Battleground Season 10 is scheduled to end as early as November 15. At that point we will determine who is eligible for the end-of-season rewards, a process that should take approximately one week. It’s very important for players who feel that they may be eligible for Arena titles and/or the Vicious Gladiator’s Twilight Drake to refrain from transferring their characters to another realm or faction until after Season 10 ends. During the break between seasons, all Rated Battleground and Arena matches will be unavailable.
At the end of the season, Conquest Points will be converted to Honor Points, possibly exceeding the 4,000 point Honor cap. All Season 10 items will cost Honor Points (equivalent to their previous Conquest Point cost) when the season ends, with the exception of any items with rating requirements attached. These items will no longer be available for purchase.
Please be aware that higher ilvl PvP items will be introduced and available for Honor points with patch 4.3.
The next Arena and Rated Battleground season will begin for level-85 players approximately one week after the end of Season 10 and will coincide with the awarding of Season 10 titles and mounts. At that time, any Honor accrued above the 4,000-point cap will be converted into gold at a rate of 35 silver per point. In addition, Season 11 rewards will be made available for purchase with Conquest Points awarded during the new season. Matchmaking Ratings will carry over when Season 11 begins, but all Team and Personal Ratings will be wiped.
This is very much in line with what I discussed in Preparing for Patch 4.3 / Arena Season 11, which is a very good thing. It’s a good thing because Blizzard is making sure to communicate the process in advance, detailing caveats about gear level increases, point conversions, and rating changes.
Again, my advice for preparing for Season 11 is pretty straightforward:
- Stockpile Honor and Justice Points to their cap. This will give you the maximum amount of Honor possible to carry forward into Season 11:
70006667 points. - Prepare for 1-2 enchanting and gemming rounds. Get your PvP enchants, Resilience gems, leg armor, and engineering tinkers in place now before prices spike. Tonight, if you can.
- Don’t buy any PvP gear during the interseason week. Complete your Conquest set if you like for mogging, but expect to replace it once Season 11 starts.
I would plan on taking the interseason week to work on capping your Honor and Justice points, and then either take some time off before the holidays or go play with some alts. It’s a good time to audition a new PvP main, try out new partners, or practice in the BGs.
Now taking bets on if Season 10 will end on 11/15 or 11/22. 🙂 Glad no one took me up on a bet! End date is officially the 29th.
Buying a 378 weapon if you have a 359 or less during the inter-week is still good, no?
That’s a good point, but shouldn’t you have replaced that thing before now? 🙂
Mage hits 85 next week so not yet 🙂
lol, well yeah. I’m talking about for other folks.
Grats Sarlalian
Aaaghh! We just got started. I am 2000 conquest points away from being able to buy my weapon… Well, I guess when they convert, I’ll buy it using Honor.
So you don’t think the PvP honor enchants for Head/Shoulder items will be upgraded when Season 11 hits? I’m debating whether to buy those two now or wait.
My best guess is that no, they will not upgrade them. Doing so without also upgrading the PvE rep enchants would cause an imbalance and drive raiders to PvP, with predictable results.
The current enchants were introduced in 4.0.6. We’ve had 4.1 and 4.2 come since without upgrades. While the name implies they’d get tied to a season, it hasn’t worked out like that.
“At the end of the season, Conquest Points will be converted to Honor Points, possibly exceeding the 4,000 point Honor cap.”
What I don’t understand about the above quote is the “possibly” part. Why are they so vague, will conquest points convert to honor above 4k points or will it be turned into gold? It makes a big difference now since I’d rather not grind to the 4k honor cap and let my conquest (sitting at 3k atm) just be converted. BUT, if it’s 4k honor + conquest points turning into honor even above that, it makes a huge difference.
The possibly is because it all depends on how much Honor and Conquest you have at the time the season ends.
Let’s say you have 2k Conquest and 2k Honor. When Season 10 ends, your Conquest all converts to Honor, giving you 4k Honor. You’re at the cap. Normal rules apply.
Change it up a bit – 3k of each. S10 ends, you have 6k Honor and have exceeded the cap. Any additional Honor Points you earn during that week don’t apply until you’re below the cap again. If you don’t, it’s no big deal, because when Season 11 starts (presumably 1 week later), all Honor Points you have above 4k are converted to gold.
In your situation, I’d let the Conquest convert at the end of S10 and grind up to the 4k cap and stop. There’s no benefit to grinding anything past it, unless you want to convert it to Justice Points.
So consider this scenario since I really don’t feel like grinding honor to 4k at all – Let’s say I completely stop BG grinding and only save my conquest points until Nov. 29.
So at the end of the season, I have 500 honor and ~6k conquest. That 6k conquest gets turned into honor, and I’ll have my JP maxed so essentially its the same as capping 4k honor/JP except I won’t be spending anything on Ruthless gear (which will be replaced anyway)
Right. After S10 ends, you’ll have 6500 Honor and 0 Conquest. When S11 starts, your Honor will be reduced to 4k (max you can carry forward) and you’ll get some gold back for the excess.
Grinding Honor in this situation nets you nothing in the long term, unless you’re buying vanity items or mogging gear. Save your effort.
Just the information I was looking for.
Thanks, you saved me from a world of disappointment!
– Jamin
Having gone through that disappointment myself last season, I’m glad I could spare you it! 🙂
I am trying to get confirmation on whether or not you can purchase the ruthless weapons with honor during the interseason week. Can anyone tell me if this is possible and if there are any point qualifications that have to be met?
I honestly don’t remember how this worked in the Season 9-10 transition. I think the < 2200 versions were available without restriction, but I am frankly guessing. I'm not positive about this.
Thank you
So…let me see if I have this correct.
If I have 4k honor and 2k conquest, the conquest will convert to honor on the 29th, giving me 6k honor altogether. At that time, I can spend the 6k honor on conquest gear and then just wait for a week before starting to earn whatever currency will be required for S11?
S11 is sure to have a new currency (much like conquest), so I might as well buy up all the conquest gear (with honor) I can during the transition week and then start fresh with the new currency at the beginning of S11..
Is this right? Am I making any sense? Even writing it, I have my doubts. 😛
K – same situation – I have 6k honor points on the 29th. Currently I have two of the “plain” conquest gear pieces (no requirements). Should I spend my 6k honor on the rest of the plain conquest gear pieces during transition week or will the regular honor gear for S11 be better than the plain conquest stuff? If so, then I will have wasted my honor on sub-par gear. Thanks for your input. I think I can speak for all of us that we appreciate your insight. 🙂
The S11 Honor gear will be superior to the S10 Conquest gear, no matter when you purchase either set. If you buy any S10 gear, expect to replace it when S11 starts.
Setting aside all the math, that should be your buying strategy; if you buy anything with S10 on it, consider the S11 piece you could be getting in a week instead.
Good luck!
thank you thank you thank you!!
I could have made a pretty bad mistake there.